The 2000's, the American 'lost decade'

topic posted Tue, November 3, 2009 - 7:18 AM by  The Intellec...
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For those who don't know, Japan suffered during the 90's a period non existent growth, persistent unemployment and massive efforts by the government proved utterly futile. It was called "The Lost Decade" for good reason, as you could have ripped it off their calendar and it would not have made any real difference in their society fiscally speaking.

For us, the 2000's has been our own lost decade, only what worries me is ours is shaping up to be even longer. The current crowing is how our national unemployment rate has moved an almost imperceptible tick downward, from 9.7 to 9.6% yet when I checked the stats on all the major cities it showed theirs had actually gone up. Of LA, New York, Seattle, Houston, Washington DC and Chicago, only Seattle had a drop, the others have gone up. The worrisome thing is major cities tend to be the economic canaries, when they drop dead the rest of the country tends to follow suit so whatever minor hiccup they are cheering about is likely to be the calm before the next bout of storm.

Worse yet, if this 'recovery' proves to be like the last two, where there was supposed increases in company profits, this was born from streamlining and downsizing so unlike say the internet boom, the manufacturing boom of the 50's and 50's, these recoveries came from cannibalizing their staff not from infrastructural growth. As we have no real industry or technology that seems poised to ignite our commercial fire this is likely to be yet another "jobless recovery" and if that's the case be ready to have double digit unemployment become a mainstay of our society.

Be ready for both sides to do... nothing. To some extent I understand why, nobody has any real ideas that could both work AND they are willing to embrace. Corporate america is terrified of the idea of competing with anybody, the government's idea of stimulus is to pork barrel project which only benefits a tiny handful, and the citizenry has been conditioned to neither want or be able to start their own enterprises.

Looks like the Randians are getting their 'Atlas Shrugged' scenario after all.
I wonder if they'll realize how much that would really suck.
They're going to find out.
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The Intellectual
Atlanta
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  • Re: The 2000's, the American 'lost decade'

    Tue, November 3, 2009 - 1:12 PM
    >>the citizenry has been conditioned to neither want or be able to start their own enterprises. <<

    Inaccurate. The citzenry has had its independent livelihood stolen from it by a rogue illegal "government" cartel, at the behest of moneyed enemies of the USA.

    It's absurd to suggest that, with a little sunshine and chin up, anyone could make a go of independently retailing *anything*. As complex as USA's downfall supposedly is, it's not too amazing that our economy should fail when all the money of all the people is stolen again and again & there's absolutely no possible redress. Is that what you meant by "conditioning"?

    That people are too lazy and craven to step around this system *is* their fault, though. I'm just saying: it's not "conditioning", it's simple fearful sloth. The USA is owned by bad people, and we are just too interested in trivia to bother with it. We pretend that it's not on us to create systems by which to live - but somehow that megacorporations have to clean up their act and make those *for* us. Of course those systems are going to fuck us, and of course it was stupid to put anything in business' hands in the first place.

    Even the perception of "recovery" in this case means "recovery of the large scale big money systems". Those systems are not going to be good for us. Ever.
    • Re: The 2000's, the American 'lost decade'

      Tue, November 3, 2009 - 1:38 PM
      While I do consider most people lazy and craven, that is another matter. While the corporatists have most certainly played to this, I am referring to a more generalized attitude that has become the pervasive mentality in this country that the only way to success is by going to work for one of our corporate masters.

      It starts in childhood, when children try to start their own businesses only for their parents to be sued or threatened by state agencies. It goes on into adulthood when people want to start a local venture only to find the costs of opening a shop, restaurant, etc is so prohibitive, not from equipment but from regulatory adherence, most of which was urged by the corporatists who of course have the political pull to be exempted from. The corporatists are utterly terrified of a open capitalist system, just as freedom for peasants was the undoing of serfdom.

      Any small surviving business will tell you exactly why the corporatists make every effort to block competition - it's easy to rule when you're the only game in town, or when your competition colludes with you. I however do not agree with the Randians who think we're better off letting the thing collapse and starting over. Wouldn't it be easier to round up the ringleaders of our quagmire and let their grisly deaths be a lesson to their successors?
  • Re: The 2000's, the American 'lost decade'

    Tue, November 3, 2009 - 4:54 PM
    What's interesting for me to see is the way some of my work clients have acted before, during and after the economic ker-plop. Some (ex-clients) planned very badly, didn't see it coming for some reason, and then resorted to thievery to stay afloat. Some kept their cool and, though they lost a lot, still keep coming up with new ways to make money, usually in cooperative type business endeavors.

    I saw this problem coming for a long time. I feel like one of the financial canaries so to speak.
    • Re: The 2000's, the American 'lost decade'

      Wed, November 4, 2009 - 10:04 AM
      start up costs have skyrocketed.
      don't apply.
      ignore the master long enough
      they may come looking
      but you already gone.
      like dark energy
      light gravity is over their heads
      rolling side to side
      hidden variables
      are invisible

      catch-22 1/2

      just as we can't stop them doing whatever they want
      they can't stop us from doing whatever they can't catch us at.

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  • Re: The 2000's, the American 'lost decade'

    Wed, November 4, 2009 - 6:28 PM
    << be ready to have double digit unemployment become a mainstay of our society. >>

    Then you may kiss American society goodbye with confidence you'll never see it again.

    There are simply too many corrosive factors at work on US society already -along with the sheer dislocating speed of our downfall- for America as we know it to withstand permanent unemployment numbers as high as the present rate.

    The number of desperate middle-class people, wit's-ended ex-workers and walking-bomb maniacs generated by this means something quite ugly and violent is very likely down the pike and closing fast.

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